The comments ran 25-1 toward leaving Keith Raniere.
The last of the original 105 DOS slaves, first eight, now only six in number, banded together, calling themselves the DOSsier Project.
On their first video on their new YouTube channel, launched after their most prominent member, Nicki Clyne, left, they talk about Clyne’s departure and how the DOSsier Project will live on.
The six remaining DOS ‘slaves’ are Michele Hatchette, Sahajo Haertel, Linda Chung, Danielle Roberts, Angeline Hinojos, and Leah Motishaw.
Originally, the DOS structure was that 105 women were subordinate to one man – Raniere – the master of them all – though many did not know Raniere was their secret leader or that his initials were secretly the true meaning of the brand they got on their groins – until Frank Report broke the news in June 2017.
On this video, there are 79 comments, most of which were not in support of the continuation of the DOSsier Project, but rather encouraging the women to follow Clyne and free themselves of association with Raniere.
Implicit in the continuation of the DOSsier Project is the continuing support of DOS and their leader Keith Raniere. Though the DOSsier women acknowledge Clyne’s list of 30 controversies in her recent statement can give one pause, the women do what so many of Raniere’s followers have done in the past — defer a serious investigation of the allegations of Raniere’s bad intent.
One commenter raises the issue.
AlBeezyBob
Nicki says on her statement: “It’s implausible to believe that the long trail of Keith’s victims over several decades, many who had no connection to one another, were all lying and seeking illicit rewards.” Do you ladies disagree?
The DOSsier Project responds
Not sure how Nicki has come to that conclusion, but in the form of a question, it can give one pause. There’s so much we don’t know about Keith’s personal relationships with individuals and we don’t pretend to. We support Nicki’s decision to take the path she feels is best for her and always have her back
AlBeezyBob
@The Dossier Project Thank you for your response, and I think it’s great you are taking the time to pause and consider Nicki’s statement carefully and also to still support her despite whatever differences you may have. Down the line after you get some time to process Nicki leaving and her statement, I’m sure that those who follow you would love to know your perspectives on her statement. Thank you!
[But are the DOSsier Project women seriously evaluating Clyne’s statement?]
Susan Dones:
One of the more compassionate comments was from Susan Dones, a former NXIVM center owner who left in 2009 and who is well known to FR readers.
I know this is a difficult time for the six of you. I’m the last person you want to hear from as you see me as an enemy. I’m not, really. We have different points of view on Keith Raniere’s behaviors, but I do believe in women’s empowerment.
That being said. I’m sad that it comes down to the fact when someone makes a choice to leave a man like Keith Raniere, it tears at the very fiber of every relationship between him & others. You are either with him or if you choose to leave him, you have to leave everyone still loyal to him.
There is no other choice. He will not tolerate anything else. That is control he decides & is not women’s empowerment. That is a cult & not a healthy relationship. IMO.
Letting a man who is 99.9% going to be locked up in prison for the rest of his life decide who YOU can be friends with, because she decides to no longer have a relationship with him because she decides it isn’t healthy, wasn’t healthy & was abusive, is head shaking to me.
Nowhere else in society does this happen. Women don’t tolerate this in their friendships with other women. This is just food for thought.
Know if at any time any of you decide to take the path of Nicki, I will stand by your side. I wait with open arms as I have everyone who has left NXIVM. If staying beside Raniere’s side works for you, so be it. I wish you the best life brings you in that situation.
John Fox
[Another comment was from the husband of a former DOS member, Sylvie Lloyd. He references comedic skits done during Nancy Salzman’s birthday celebration called the Festival of Flowers. ]
Oh, this is too funny. You guys should submit this to SNL for a skit. It’s better than anything I saw at Festival of Flowers follies. Too, too funny
Sahajo Haertel
A DOSsier member, Sahajo Haertel replied.
… Sad to see you’ve become so mean and hatefulSchadenfreude is a terrible human trait. You’re better than this. I’m sorry you seem to still feel so hurt and angry.
[Some other comments:]
Peter Liddell
The manifesto sounds as though you are trying to retroactively legitimize/deconstruct your experiences with Keith and Nxivm. Nicki hit the nail on the head when she said it is implausible that all the victims are lying.
AA
The fact that Nikki saw the light and you guys haven’t is so sad
Paige K
I genuinely hope all of you are doing okay during this difficult and confusing time. Everyone, including myself, want nothing but good things for all of you, Nicki and anyone on either side of the Nxivm aisle no matter what your decisions may be.v
Gunner
So glad Nicki finally woke up!
Jackie
This is wonderful news. Congratulations to Nicki. Hopefully, you all will wake up from this illusion and follow Nicki.
April Porter
How can you not “fully understand Nicki’s reasons”? I thought she was quite clear in her public statement. I wish you all the best in your endeavors and for you to know that there is support for you should you also decide to rethink your positions. As Paige says, it is a difficult and confusing time.
Even in his youth
@The Dossier Project but there is also so much we DO know.. enough for a jury whose instructions were ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’. do you guys think you are more reasonable than all the victims and all 12 jurors?
Diana Hernandez
Hoping Nicki can now have a healthy and happy life. I hope the best for you all but hoping you can see the truth about the monster Keith really is.
Janessa Rick
Please take some time for yourselves to consider if it is really good for you to continue this..ultimately something good.. what you believed when you entered DOS.. is intrinsically linked with KR and his despicable behavior…that is the problem with this and why Nicki.. who began The Dossier project…had to close it down. It’s fine if you need to express yourselves..but you can’t deny the reality of all the women who were abused and that by staying connected in any way to a defense of KR..connects you to his deeds. Maybe its time for you to disavow him and what he has done and then if you want to stand for justice do it..but NOT connected to him or his case.
Lasha Rojenko
I absolutely agree and I wish them all the best as well and I used to watch this channel listening to all sides of it trying to understand these women and I think they have arrested development from being in a cult and I know what that feels like it’s scary but these ones they dig their heels in and they won’t talk to Nikki because she closed it down for people out of how many people I feel so hopeful that these women will find themselves and that Nikki‘s freed herself or is she just tired of the association with it she’s been through a lotShe’s allowed to change her mind without nude photos going out like I don’t think I’ll ever be able to wrap my head around that
Kadi Tierney
Wait?! The group has “nothing to do with supporting Keith” but now that Nikki no longer supports Keith…she’s gone. Your entire essence is a contradiction. But you’re too sick to ever recognize that you just declared a massive contradiction of your entire mission. You all need so much
raydog1111
Do you plan on addressing the 30 controversies listed in Nicki’s article on frankreport? They’re quite specific and would be difficult for anyone contemplating the goals listed in your manifesto to ignore.
Louise Coulombe
I think Nicki needs to work. It’s in her best interest to distance herself from all of this.
Ems
I thought the recent video you made that was posted on the old channel about your personal experiences with Keith was unusual in that although Nicki led the conversation, she actually didn’t contribute at all. All we heard about was how the others had experienced him and what they thought of their brief or sporadic interactions. I do remember Danielle speaking on her business partnership ( was that it?) with him but still, it was baffling how the person who knew him best and most intimately was silent. Also, in other videos in general, you all spoke about your personal master / slave experiences but Nicki never spoke about hers. From my recollection, she spoke frequently about the trial and the documentaries but not about her actual experiences in DOS. I’ve always wondered who her master was. Was it Allison? Was it Keith? Any thoughts?
middlemarie
This is all so disturbing, bizarre, sad, surreal, pathetic and I am here for it. I am here for all of it. Like what is this group going to do that is going to change the world other than make videos of how women are never victims and rape doesn’t exist. Are they going to offer two for one branding? Are they going to start up again and think they will get more and more members until a Zoom room can’t hold them all and they have to pay for the 50+ people option on Zoom? Will they keep making videos saying the exact same thing in 800 ways? Will Marilyn Manson appear? Harvey Weinstein? Epstein from the grave? Ghislane Maxwell? Allison Mack would be a good get. Women of this group – how are you changing the world for the better? Your manifesto literally can be boiled down to ‘women play the victim and men are the victims of women playing the vicrtim and rape does not exist.’ Also Nicki Clyne – goodness she is so clearly just trying to get ahead of this civil case. She’ll be back with you once that is all done. Do women in your group feed the hungry or really anything remotely helpful to humanity? I suggest your new videos aren’t the same rape isn’t real endless repetition of Keiths’ words.
Please please.
katiecoolady
One day you will each look back at this video and see how completely drained you appear. I can only imagine how you feel. Nicki appears to be regaining her life force again. Hope she becomes a beacon.
Whimsy Galore
If this channel is an any way negatively affecting your life, RUN! Do what Nicki has done and don’t look back. These piddly ass views are not worth anything negative in your ACTUAL lives.
Emily Musolino
I wonder what the straw that broke the camel’s back was for Nicki
jeffkoons001
NICKI WOKE UP!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!! BRAVA, NICKI!
Lasha Rojenko
I am so happy for Nikki I’ve been following all of you for a while now my name is Lasher Rojenko and I don’t understand how the four of you I understand what you’re saying about empowering and so on it’s just all so very vague however what Keith did was horrendous I don’t care if it wasn’t illegal it should’ve been and obviously he did something or he wouldn’t be able away for 120 years and I sent comments every time Nikki would talk and stop and pause and just tell her to stop wasting her life on Catherine airy I just watched another video with her on it saying that she’s reevaluating no matter what anybody thinks it’s just a vote you know right evidence and it sounds like she’s going back into her acting and so I think it’s ironic I was thinking about her and Colonel Kurtz and Colonel Kurtz I think is absolutely brilliant brilliant and Nikki was on her show and I just couldn’t understand how this beautiful intelligent woman and now she’s free herself God bless her and I really hope this isn’t just so people stop bullying or what she perceives is bullying I always just cared and I hope all of you one day staying friends is great but you can’t stay friends with Nikki just because she won’t doesn’t want to do this group anymore that’s not inclusive inclusiveness or getting naked pictures for collateral is just something people can’t get their heads around and you’re the four majority out of anybody who’s seen anything even listening to your sides on podcasts I wish you all the best go to your careers stay friends and just be Happy and please tell Nikki Lasha says hello and I wish her the best in her acting and I think she’s going to do amazing
Kadi Tierney
So. Nikki was trying to save the rest of you.
middlemarie
Nicky says Reniere forced her into sex. Danielle branded women with Keith’s initials so she is invested in Keith to some extent. Will you speak to this
Vector
Drained and moribund. Anything but empowered. Self-deluded zombies. A sad spectacle.
Kadi Tierney
Ha! As if you all did not look incredibly sad and desperate before. You had zero credibility previously. You all are into deep negatives now. What happened to the DEEP sisterhood?!?!
Vincent Ford
So sorry to read This! I Hope you regain access to your old Channel
Rick Fisk
I hope you all remain friends.
Johnny Covid
WAKE UP!
AlBeezyBob
Also I’m curious, have you read her statement? And what are your thoughts on her statement? Thanks!
Roberta Kellogg
I wish you all the best. This is off subject, but why the name Dossier? I have wondered this for quite some time. A detailed report or file on someone???? Seems odd.
